[dorkbotlondon-blabber] Re: [dorkbotlondon-announce] future o f dorkbotlondon at state51

[Atwood, Robert C]

art/not art
right/wrong
legal/illegal

We probably agree that there is no reason why somthing which is 'illegal' is
also necessarily 'wrong' just as something which is 'legal' is not
necessarily 'right'. 

Is there a principle which states that if something is 'art' then it cannot
also be 'wrong' ?

Is any spraypainter excused because you consider one who spraypaints in
protest against an oppressive regime, greedy  unethical corporation, etc.
to be justified?  

Vandalism as art: 
After ingesting blue gelatin and cake icing on Nov. 2nd, Jubal Brown vomited
on his target, Piet Mondrian's "Composition in Red, White, & Blue" at NYC's
MOMA. Witnessed by a few "lucky" museum patrons, Brown said the event wasn't
stale like the rest of the art in the gallery. It lasted for only a few
minutes "before they brought out the Kleenex and took it away". 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ivan Pope [mailto:ivan@ivanpope.com]
> Sent: 10 October 2002 17:35
> To: dorkbotlondon-blabber@music.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotlondon-blabber] Re: 
> [dorkbotlondon-announce] future
> of dorkbotlondon at state51
> 
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 11:45:59AM +0100, Ivan Pope wrote:
> > > Alex,
> > > Maybe you over react:
> >
> > Aw come on, let the guy have some catharsis. If you woke up 
> and found
> > your car, home or even work space you were at least some extent
> > emotionally invested in spraypainted how annoyed & angry 
> would you be?
> >
> > > Maybe someone just wanted to show their appreciation without
> electricity.
> >
> > You've been to one too many poetry readings, mate! It's 
> vandalism, and
> > it's illegal. The swastika is a symbol of hate (ask a Jew), 
> and bored
> > teenagers. You're right though, it'd be a huge shame for 
> dorkbot to be
> > beaten over this.
> 
> -- By god son, in my day the culprits would have been put 
> over a fence and
> horsewhipped, and what about the ladies, I ask you, if a man 
> can't dorkbot
> in safety things have come to a pretty pass, I blame that 
> Tony Blair myself,
> look what he has done to fox hunting, by god, call the army 
> out, give them a
> good thrashing ...
> 
> We all have a right to be angry, and I don't question or 
> judge Alex over
> this. I appreciate and commend all the dorkbot work. God 
> knows, we need it.
> That said, all I wanted to do was to put some intelligent 
> thoughts into the
> pot. Lots of things are considered illegal and lots of things 
> are considered
> vandalism. Lots of artworks are put into these categories.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ivan
> 
> 
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